diff --git a/Tautulli.py b/Tautulli.py
index 74a9789d..64a919eb 100755
--- a/Tautulli.py
+++ b/Tautulli.py
@@ -106,8 +106,8 @@ def main():
         plexpy.QUIET = True
 
     # Do an intial setup of the logger.
-    logger.initLogger(console=not plexpy.QUIET, log_dir=False,
-                      verbose=plexpy.VERBOSE)
+    # Require verbose for pre-initilization to see critical errors
+    logger.initLogger(console=not plexpy.QUIET, log_dir=False, verbose=True)
 
     try:
         plexpy.SYS_TIMEZONE = tzlocal.get_localzone()
diff --git a/plexpy/__init__.py b/plexpy/__init__.py
index ea41a3fc..73f7e63a 100644
--- a/plexpy/__init__.py
+++ b/plexpy/__init__.py
@@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ SYS_LANGUAGE = None
 SYS_ENCODING = None
 
 QUIET = False
-VERBOSE = True
+VERBOSE = False
 DAEMON = False
 CREATEPID = False
 PIDFILE = None
@@ -122,6 +122,7 @@ def initialize(config_file):
 
         global CONFIG
         global CONFIG_FILE
+        global VERBOSE
         global _INITIALIZED
         global CURRENT_VERSION
         global LATEST_VERSION
@@ -152,6 +153,8 @@ def initialize(config_file):
         if not log_writable and not QUIET:
             sys.stderr.write("Unable to create the log directory. Logging to screen only.\n")
 
+        VERBOSE = VERBOSE or bool(CONFIG.VERBOSE_LOGS)
+
         # Start the logger, disable console if needed
         logger.initLogger(console=not QUIET, log_dir=CONFIG.LOG_DIR if log_writable else None,
                           verbose=VERBOSE)
diff --git a/plexpy/config.py b/plexpy/config.py
index 469f3f47..42fb524a 100644
--- a/plexpy/config.py
+++ b/plexpy/config.py
@@ -603,6 +603,7 @@ _CONFIG_DEFINITIONS = {
     'UPDATE_LABELS': (int, 'General', 1),
     'UPDATE_LIBRARIES_DB_NOTIFY': (int, 'General', 1),
     'UPDATE_NOTIFIERS_DB': (int, 'General', 1),
+    'VERBOSE_LOGS': (int, 'Advanced', 1),
     'VERIFY_SSL_CERT': (bool_int, 'Advanced', 1),
     'VIDEO_LOGGING_ENABLE': (int, 'Monitoring', 1),
     'WEBSOCKET_MONITOR_PING_PONG': (int, 'Advanced', 0),
diff --git a/plexpy/webserve.py b/plexpy/webserve.py
index 7c82ef21..474e2122 100644
--- a/plexpy/webserve.py
+++ b/plexpy/webserve.py
@@ -2667,8 +2667,11 @@ class WebInterface(object):
     @requireAuth(member_of("admin"))
     def toggleVerbose(self, **kwargs):
         plexpy.VERBOSE = not plexpy.VERBOSE
-        logger.initLogger(console=not plexpy.QUIET,
-                          log_dir=plexpy.CONFIG.LOG_DIR, verbose=plexpy.VERBOSE)
+
+        plexpy.CONFIG.__setattr__('VERBOSE_LOGS', plexpy.VERBOSE)
+        plexpy.CONFIG.write()
+
+        logger.initLogger(console=not plexpy.QUIET, log_dir=plexpy.CONFIG.LOG_DIR, verbose=plexpy.VERBOSE)
         logger.info(u"Verbose toggled, set to %s", plexpy.VERBOSE)
         logger.debug(u"If you read this message, debug logging is available")
         raise cherrypy.HTTPRedirect(plexpy.HTTP_ROOT + "logs")